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Version: 1.7
Posting-Frequency: monthly
Archive-name: games/marathon-faq
Last-modified: 1996/09/03
URL: http://www.ese.ogi.edu/pub/entertainment/marathon/utilities/a.g.m.faq.html
V1.7 September 2, 1996
Welcome to the Alt.Games Marathon FAQ! If after reading this, you
still have questions (or know of questions that belong here), feel
free to send them along. (My email address is errera@ese.ogi.edu.)
All links are valid as of September 2, 1996. I'll try to make sure that new
ones make it in (you can help by mailing any I've missed to me), and
broken/disappeared ones (like that word?) get removed.
This file will *not* cover information that's already covered in
a current marathon FAQ. As of today, that list includes the Marathon
Spoiler Guide:
http://www.grayphics.com/marathon/spoiler/ (Recently updated)
and the Grenade Jumping FAQ, offline for the time being, but downloadable at
http://www.ese.ogi.edu/pub/entertainment/marathon/utilities/gren.jump.faq.11.hqx
and the Devil in a Blue Dress FAQ:
http://www.ese.ogi.edu/pub/entertainment/marathon/combo/devilfaq.html
or in downloadable form at
http://www.ese.ogi.edu//pub/entertainment/marathon/combo/devilfaq.hqx
and the Net Play Tips FAQ (still in its infancy, but send questions, and
he'll update it):
http://www.ames.net/marathon/net/
(Did I miss any? I'm not including the Marathon FAQ 3.0 because it is
no longer being maintained.)
This file will be reposted monthly, and pointers will be posted weekly.
It is also available in html format at
http://www.ese.ogi.edu/pub/entertainment/marathon/utilities/a.g.m.faq.html
or text format at
ftp://wmj.ese.ogi.edu//pub/mac/entertainment/marathon/a.g.m.faq.txt
Any major (or even minor) errors should be pointed out to me, so
that I can fix them.
Now, finally, when someone asks a FAQ on a.g.m, you can finally
say, "Go read the FAQ!" Won't that feel good?
Claude Errera
errera@ese.ogi.edu
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CHANGES/ADDITIONS IN THIS VERSION:
- Updated PC version question
- Updated cheat programs question
- Updated ftp sites question
- Updated available editors question
- Added Pfhorte objects question
- Updated sight patch question
- Updated 68K crash question
- Added Infinity demo shotgun ammo (level 1) question
- Added Infinity demo kkv location question
- Added Infinity demo kkv-in-netplay question
- Lots of link additions/subtractions
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General
What kind of game is Marathon?
Is there a PC version?
How do I get more serial #s?
Could someone mail me/post the game?
Is there a way to start on any level I want?
Are there any secret codes for Marathon?
How about cheat programs?
How do you take screen shots in Marathon?
How do I find out what frame rate my machine is running at?
Are there any useful commands not mentioned in TFM?
Does Bungie rock, or what?
Gameplay
How do I get past Colony Ship/G4 Sunbathing/whatever?
How do I get aliens to turn on in M2 net play?
What's with the two greyed-out net game options in M2?
Can I play Marathon over the Internet?
Can I play Marathon over a modem?
Is there any way to run faster than normal?
Modifying Marathon
What's a good ftp site for Marathon stuff?
What's available in terms of editors?
How do I use this 3rd party Map/Physics Model/stupid thing?
Are there any maps designed after real buildings?
How can I use Shapes patches on PCI macs?
I made a very simple map, but I can walk through the walls! What gives?
I'd like to add terms to my M2 map, but Pfhorte only let's me add 1! Why?
How can I make objects I've added with Pfhorte show up during gameplay?
Is there a sight patch for M2?
Troubleshooting
How come lots of map crash on my 68K mac? Can I stop this?
How come my net-games keep fragmenting and what can I do about it?
How come certain key combinations don't work?
How can I get 16-bit sound on M2?
How come I can't make films off of saved games?
Is there a way to make films of later levels?
I can't get Music to work! What's going on?
I couldn't get the real-time mic to work in M2. What's going on?
Why can't I use the mic in M1? Everyone else can...
How do I change views in net games/films?
Infinity Demo
Is that shotgun ammo at the end of level 1 accessible?
How do I find the new weapon on level 2?
How can I shoot my friends with that new weapon?
Appendix 1: Marathon Web Sites
Credits
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GENERAL
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* What kind of game is Marathon?
It's a first-person, 3D texture-mapped shoot-em-up in the same genre as
Doom, among others. It's better than the rest, but it's in the same
genre... (How was that for objective?)
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* Is there a PC version?
Marathon for Windows95 will be released on September 6. (This is an
official Bungie date.) In the meantime, you can learn about (and
download) the demo from
http://www.bungie.com/m295demo.html
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* How do I get more serial #s?
Call Bungie at (800) 295-0600 and order them, for about $15 each. Or
check out their store on the web:
http://www.bungie.com/store.html
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* Could someone mail me/post the game?
Get a life, okay?
1) Bungie's a great company-buy the software if you like playing
the game.
2) It's illegal.
3) M1 is 12 megs total, and M2 is 52 megs. These are a bit large for
posting...
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* Is there a way to start on any level I want?
Just hold down the Command and Option keys as you click on Begin Game.
Likewise, for Cooperative play, hold down Command and Option keys as
you click on Gather Network Game.
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* Are there any secret codes for Marathon?
You mean besides that command-option thing up above? Well, maybe. It's
possible to empty an entire clip nearly at once by holding down the
fire key and tapping next and previous weapon very quickly (emphasis on
very). I'm not sure you'd call this a cheat code, but it's certainly
undocumented in any Bungie literature.
There were lots of cheat codes in the M1 beta (PATHWAYS, PZBXAY,
TOASTER, FATMAN, PISTOL, FISHEYE, ISEEYOU, HAVESOME, OXYGEN, HEALTH,
AMMO, ASLAG, and probably many more), but they were pulled out before
release of the demo or the full commercial version, and they didn't
seem to ever make it into M2 (although the really early stuff never got
out...).
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* How about cheat programs?
Sure.
For adding weapons, ammo, health, powerups, oxygen, or objects (like
uplink cards), the cheater to get is Eggert Thorlacius' Marathon
Cheater 5.0.1. It currently works with Marathon, the Marathon Demo,
Marathon 2, the Marathon 2 Sneak Preview, the Marathon 2 Demo, and the
Infinity Demo. Its only shortcoming is that it requires a saved game in
order to function. (That is, you can't use it to give yourself unlimited
powers at the beginning.)
Also for both M1 and M2, you can use the Marathon Universal Patcher,
which actually modifies the Marathon app to start your player out with
greater stats. It was created by Naoki Yokoyama.
For M2 only, you can grab a copy of Tim Swihart's Maramacros. These are
MacsBug macros, and as such require MacsBug, available at finer Apple
ftp sites everywhere. Once installed (and they come with extremely
detailed installation instructions), they allow you to give yourself
anything you want, without the necessity of saving first. Extremely
handy...
For all flavors of M2, plus the Infinity Demo, there's the Infinity
Game Wimp. It's a lot like the Marathon Cheater, except that it adds
some flexibility and ease-of-use for folks who like to cheat a little
bit.
For M1, and for 68K only, there's the Plus Key Save Anywhere patch.
This allows you to save anywhere using the Plus key. (Um, I guess the
filename made that last sentence uneccessary...) Unfortunately, it
doesn't work with PowerMacs, or with M2.
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* How do you take screen shots in Marathon? Command-shift-3 doesn't
seem to work.
Three ways:
The free way is to hit Shift-5 *before* hitting command-shift-3. (The %
sign (shift-5) gives more processing time to the OS, which allows the
regular screen shot combo to work.)
The fancy free way is to download PIXs, an exclusive MacUser screen-snap
utility available only from ZiffNet's MacUser web site or from ZiffNet
forums on online services.
MacUser's Home Page:
http://www.zdnet.com/macuser/
PIXs Page:
http://www.hotfiles.com/swbrowse/MC10/5/5/mac-MC10556.html
The not-free way (but it has other advantages) is to download Snapz, a
screen-snap utility from Ambrosia Software
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