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 The FAQ Quick Review Guide 
      A Quick Reference For Working Within The a.b.s.m.* Newsgroups

 Help make these groups better and more useful for everyone.  
 Follow these easy steps.  Thanks!

  1 -  Limit your posts to 75 megabytes per 24 hours.

  2 -  Use a high quality encoder. 

  3 -  Make good use of a 0-file and include all pertinent info. 

  4 -  Use meaningful subject headers that are not too long. Avoid using   
       more than 80 characters! 

  5 -  Check your MP3s before posting them. 

  6 -  Test post in test groups. 

  7 -  Post from 472500 to 315000 bytes per segment (7500 to 5000 lines
       uuencoded/segment) for best propagation.

  8 -  Crosspost into the appropriate decade group (if you know it). 

  9 -  Don't post binaries in the discussion or request groups and vice 
       versa.

 10 -  Enjoy the music!

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                        - [1] GENERAL INFORMATION -
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 [1.0]What is an "MP3"? 

 MP3 is another name for a layer-3 mpeg.  It is a sound compression 
 format that can create near CD-quality sound files while maintaining 
 a small file size.  For more technical information on the MP3 format 
 see [9.2]
  
 [1.1]What newsgroups does this FAQ apply to? 

 This FAQ covers the entire alt.binaries.sounds.mp3 hierarchy and 
 includes, but is not restricted to, the following:

 alt.binaries.sounds.mp3 - The Binary posting group (also known as 
 the "main" group).  This group is for the posting of binary sound 
 files that are in the MP3 format.  This group is NOT for the posting 
 of text, requests, or ftp site announcements. The exceptions are: 
 postings of this document, FAQ tips, zero-files (a.k.a. (0/x)), and 
 brief follow-ups as needed to alert posters to problems or to urge 
 them towards  these guidelines.  Other non-musical exceptions are 
 cover art/insert scans, and .nfo files. Players, encoders, and other 
 sound utilities should be posted in the appropriate group: 
 alt.binaries.sounds.utilities.
 
 alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.d - This is the discussion group for the 
 a.b.s.mp3 hierarchy.  This is one of two non-binary groups of the 
 hierarchy.  Binaries are strictly forbidden in this group.  DO NOT 
 post any binaries in the "d" (discussion) group.  This group is for 
 the discussion of MP3s, MP3 technology and other MP3 related topics.
 
 alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.requests - This is the request group of the 
 hierarchy.  It is *not* a binaries group and mp3 files should not be 
 posted there. This group is intended to contain only requests and 
 request follow-ups alerting the requestor that their request has 
 been filled.
 
 alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.19xxs - Also known as the decade groups.  
 These are groups that are similar to the main group (a.b.s.mp3) but 
 are ONLY for the posting of sounds from a specific decade as 
 indicated by the group name.  The same exceptions for posting of 
 non-binaries apply to decades that apply to main. The groups are:
 
 alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1950s
 alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1960s
 alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1970s
 alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1980s
 alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1990s
 alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.2000s
 
 alt.binaries.sounds.mp3. - The "genre" groups.  These 
 are groups that have been created to contain a specific type of MP3 
 posting.  You may or may not have access to these groups, but some 
 are being used more and more so they deserve comment here.  The 
 names of the groups should be pretty self-explanatory.
 
 alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.beatles 
 alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.bootlegs 
 alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.country 
 alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.jazz 
 alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.latin 
 alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.zappa 

 NOTES: For songs that were recorded before 1950 there exists a group 
 called alt.binaries.sounds.78rpm-era  It is "for the posting of 
 binary files from the beginning of recorded sound to the end of the 
 age of 78 records in the late fifties."  Appropriate MP3s are 
 welcome there. 
 
 Although the alt.binaries.sounds.country.mp3 group is *not* part of 
 the alt.binaries.sounds.mp3 hierarchy, and therefore not bound by 
 its FAQ or Charter, it is available on a number of news servers and 
 deserves a mention here.
 
 While there *is* a country group available in the a.b.s.m* 
 hierarchy, at the time of this writing it is not as active or 
 readily available as the alt.binaries.sounds.country.mp3 group is. 
 
 There are also a large number of other alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.* 
 groups that may or not be available to your on your news server/ISP. 
  
 [1.2]Dividing the groups into genres would be a good idea. How come 
 there aren't groups like a.b.s.m.funk, or a.b.s.m.rock-and-roll? 

 There *are* groups like those. In fact, not only is there 
 a.b.s.m.rock, but there's also a.b.s.m.rock.full-album, 
 a.b.s.m.alternative-rock, a.b.s.m.classic-rock, a.b.s.m.heavy-metal 
 and even a.b.s.m.metal.full-albums.
 
 It seems like every week there is a request that a new MP3 binary 
 group be created for a specific genre of music that would be posted 
 there.
 
 There are a couple of reasons why this *isn't* the great idea that 
 it may appear to be. But despite those reasons and attempts to 
 discourage new mp3 groups, there has been rampant mp3 newsgroup 
 creation.
 
 FALLACY : "If you build it, they will come"
 
 Just because you decide a new mp3 group is needed does NOT mean that 
 anybody will ever use the group. If it is poorly thought out, poorly 
 executed, or redundant, the odds of your group succeeding are slim 
 at best.
 
 There are currently more than SEVENTY-SEVEN groups in the 
 alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.* hierarchy, and over ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY 
 FOUR mp3 groups on all of Usenet. How many of them do you have 
 access to? How many of them are used for MP3s at all?
 
 A big problem with a number of the 'genre' groups is that they are 
 duplicates of already existing groups. Where should you post 
 Dangerous Toys entire album of Hellacious Acres? Does it go in 
 a.b.s.m.complete_cd, a.b.s.m.complete-cd, a.b.s.m.full_alblum, 
 alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.rock.full-album or 
 a.b.s.m.metal.full-albums? And doesn't it also belong in a.b.s.mp3, 
 a.b.s.m.1980s, a.b.s.m.1980s;, a.b.s.m.heavy-metal, a.b.s.m.rock, 
 and a.b.s.m.rock.full-album? That's ELEVEN groups where those mp3s 
 would be on-topic.
 
 Another major problem is that 'genres' of music are subjective and 
 people legitimately disagree on what genre any given song would fall 
 into. One person insists that Vanilla Ice - Ice Ice Baby.mp3 should 
 go in the R & B group while another insists it should go in RAP.
 
 How do you determine the difference between "metal" and "hard rock"? 
 Take a look at Winamp's ID3-Tag genre list, it's a great example of 
 a lot of different ways to describe the same music. One person's 
 "Booty Bass" is another person's "House" is another person's "Hip 
 Hop."
 
 Also, would your new group even get used? There are thousands of 
 binary groups, and a large number of those are nothing more than 
 spam traps. A lot of them aren't even carried by most ISPs. The 
 decade groups (the ones that are even used at all) are *still* 
 unavailable on some news servers. Right now a.b.s.mp3 is the largest 
 newsgroup by volume. Do you think that many news admins want to add 
 *another* MP3 binary group?
 
 The list below is a sample of mp3 groups that already exist, but 
 many are hardly used and most are not widely propagated.  This does 
 not mean that your server does not carry them, only that many 
 servers do not.
 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1980s.venice-beach 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.alternative-rock 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.black-gospel 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.bluegrass-and-rockabilly 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.blues
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.books 
       Alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.bootlegs 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.brazilian 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.brazillian 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.christian 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.classic-rock 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.complete-cd 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.country 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.emmylou 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.full_alblums
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.gothic
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.gothic-industrial 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.heavy-metal 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.indian.bhangra 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.indian.movies 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.indian.movies.old 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.indian.pop 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.indian.remixes 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.indian.requests 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.indie
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.karaoke
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.kcuf 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.latin 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.m 

alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.metal.full-albumsalt.binaries.sounds.mp3.minneapolis
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.native-african-folk-music 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.newcleus 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.ninja 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.ninja.music
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.pop 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.rap-hiphop 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.rap-hiphop.full-albums 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.rap-hiphop.mixtapes 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.reggae 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.rock.full-album
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.rock 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.singing-cowboy
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.sound-effects 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.speeches
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.spoken-word 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.themes 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.tramaine-hawkins 
       alt.binaries.sounds.1940s.mp3 
       alt.binaries.sounds.1950s.mp3 
       alt.binaries.sounds.1960s.mp3 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1980s 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1990s 
       alt.binaires.sounds.mp3.1970 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1980 
       alt.binaires.sounds.mp3.1990 
       Alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1970s 
       alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1980's
 (this is not a comprehensive list - it is not updated often)

 Most of these groups all have very low mp3 traffic and some may not 
 have *ever* had any mp3s posted to them at all. And even if you 
 subscribe to a standalone news server that *does* carry these 
 groups, posting to most of them is pointless because they are 
 carried by so few servers.
 
 You should also keep in mind that there are many forms of audio 
 compression currently available that are similar to MP3. If you 
 create an exclusively MP3-based group, then posts of MP4s, AAC, VQF 
 or RA files are off-topic. Getting more and more specific with 
 newsgroup creation is not always a good idea.
 
 All in all, while creating the new group of your choice (so you 
 don't have to search through the main group to find something that 
 *you* like) may seem like a good idea, the odds of it truly being 
 successful on it's own are probably pretty small. In fact, it's 
 likely that it already has been created and just isn't widely 
 propagated or used.
  
 [1.3]How can I create a new a.b.s.mp3.* newsgroup? 

 Before you decide to just go ahead and create your group du-jour, 
 you should see if a group already exists that covers what you're 
 looking for.  It's very likely that a group already exists that 
 meets your 'needs' and mp3 might not even be in the group's name.
 
 For example, there was no need to create an MP3-specific classical 
 group.  The newsgroup alt.binaries.sounds.music.classical is a group 
 that already exists and is properly used for MP3 posting.  Another 
 example is alt.binaries.sounds.78rpm-era; it is a group that carries 
 binary sound files of all formats from the beginning of recorded 
 sound to the end of the age of 78 records in the late fifties.
 
 If you are unaware of such a group that would fit your needs and 
 cannot locate one, ask in alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.d for some help.
 
 If you *insist* on creating a new newsgroup, please go about it in 
 the correct manner.
 
 There is a proper way to create an alt.* newsgroup and have it be 
 successful, i.e., be accepted as a valid newsgroup by ISPs and news 
 servers.  What you DON'T want to do is to just go create the new 
 group because *you* think it's needed.
 
 If you really feel that there is a need for an additional a.b.s.m.* 
 newsgroup, mention it in alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.d for discussion 
 and PLEASE read the appropriate FAQs.  THEN when you take your 
 suggestion to alt.config LISTEN TO WHAT PEOPLE THERE HAVE TO SAY. 

 Just because people may disagree with your new group suggestion does 
 NOT make those people wrong.  You may or may not get a lot of 
 suggestions from the followers of alt.config as to the creation of 
 your new group, but you should not dismiss those suggestions out of 
 hand.   The people who follow alt.config probably know much more 
 than you do about the creation of new alt.* newsgroups.
  
 [1.4]What are these groups all about? 

 They are about the posting of high quality MP3-compressed sound 
 files.  If you post here, please keep that in mind. 
  
 [1.5]What about the other MP3 groups that I see? Does this FAQ apply 
 to them too? 

 There are a number of MP3 groups, some of which are unused (except 
 for spam-posting).  The above mentioned groups are the primary 
 groups that this FAQ deals with.  This does not mean that the 
 information within this FAQ is not relevant and applicable to other 
 groups, only that it is not this FAQ's intent.  This FAQ has been 
 voted on and applies to all groups in the alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.* 
 hierarchy.

 [1.6]Anything else I should know about this FAQ before I continue 
 on? 

 There are many software applications and utilities involved in the 
 playing, encoding, decoding, posting, and retrieving of MP3s.  This 
 FAQ is not meant to be a primer for the use of your particular 
 software.  If it was to take into account every piece of popular 
 software and its inner-workings or tricks, this FAQ would rapidly 
 become bloated and unreadable.  So, for the most part, this FAQ does 
 not deal with specific software issues.  The exceptions are those 
 that either relate to "frequently asked questions" in the discussion 
 group, or other helpful tips that might not be readily found 
 elsewhere.  Look in the Specific Software Sub-FAQs (S.S.Ss) 
 accommodate software issues that relate to the a.b.s.mp3 hierarchy 
 or in the Tips Section for some detailed discussions of 
 commonly-asked questions not covered in the FAQ proper.
 
 With all newsgroups it is a common and recommended practice to 
 "lurk."  This means that you follow the newsgroup, watching and 
 learning, before you begin posting.  Posting is NOT required.  There 
 is no "ratio" or required "trading" in the a.b.s.mp3 newsgroups.  
 Leeching is completely acceptable.  If you are new to Usenet, or to 
 binary newsgroups in particular, there are a number of basic FAQs 
 that may help you:
 
 http://abmefaq.net <== a MUST read. Basics of Usenet and binary 
 newsgroups.  Take a look.
 
 http://www.geocities.com/tick1845/bin_help.htm The Definitive Answer 
 to Downloading and Viewing alt.binaries <== If you have questions 
 about how to get the MP3 files from the newsgroup down to your 
 personal computer, look here for help.
 
 http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/primer/part1/ A Primer on How to 
 Work With the Usenet Community
 
 http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/what-is/part1/ What is Usenet?

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                          - [2] REQUESTING MP3s -
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 [2.0]I heard this really great song on the radio today and I want 
 the MP3.  How do I get it? 

 The most obvious answer is to request it in the 
 alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.requests group and then hope that some kind 
 soul will upload it for you.  But before you do that, there are a 
 couple other things you can try. 
 
 First of all you should pull headers in the main group and the 
 appropriate decade group.  Your song might already by posted.  The 
 second thing that you can do is to see if the MP3 is already 
 available elsewhere, like the WWW or an FTP site.
 
 There are a number of MP3 search engines available on the World Wide 
 Web, and as the a.b.s.m.* groups continue to grow, and as more and 
 more people are requesting songs, using these search engines might 
 be a quicker method for you to find the MP3 that you're looking for. 
  This is especially true if you're looking for a popular song or 
 current hit.  It can also be a very frustrating experience as 
 thousands of other people try to access the same download site at 
 the same time.
 
 There are certain songs that are requested all the time in the MP3 
 groups.  These songs are popular, and because of that fact, they are 
 available via the WWW search engines.  For Example, the song "Lady 
 In Red" by Chris DeBurgh appears over *one hundred times* on just 
 ONE MP3 search engine, and Fastball's "The Way" garnered over TWO 
 Hundred hits.  See Sections [7.0] and [9.6] of this FAQ for more 
 info on finding MP3s on the WWW.
  
 [2.1]I really want a song to get posted in the MP3 groups.  How do I 
 request it? 

 Please post your request (REQ) in alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.requests.  
 Posting Requests in the binary group is particularly frowned upon, 
 and these requests are likely to be ignored.  The binary groups 
 (every group EXCEPT the 'd' group and the .requests group) are 
 specifically intended to carry only binary posts (i.e., the MP3s 
 themselves) and not requests.  The exception to this is a 
 "zero-file" included with the binary itself, which sometimes will 
 include a request along within it.
 
 A typical request might look like this:
 
 REQ: Song Title [decade] - Artist - Other Info - Thanks
 
 The addition of the [decade] or year of release allows those who use 
 the 'decade' groups to quickly search the .requests group for 
 requests that they might be able to fill. "Other Info" would include 
 a specific album version or other pertinent information.  And the 
 "Thanks" is, of course, up to the discretion of the poster.  This is 
 just a suggestion, but a standard REQ format would make the reading 
 easier and allow sorting by Subject, which would provide an 
 alphabetical listing of all requested songs.
  
 [2.2]I've come up with about 100 songs that I want.  I guess I 
 should post a separate request for each one, right? 

 Whoa now, wait one second.  Nobody likes to see a REQ-Flood filling 
 up the group.  It makes you appear greedy and is just generally 
 annoying.  And when you're asking for something from somebody, it's 
 best to avoid being greedy and annoying.
  
 [2.3]So how do I get ALL the songs that I want? 

 Why don't you pick the 5 songs that you particularly want and 
 request those.  If/when they get posted, then you can request the 
 next 5, and so on.  Don't forget that ripping, encoding and posting 
 songs is a time consuming process, so try not to be too greedy.
 
 Another option is to put your request list in the body of the 
 message.  The downside to this is that it's easier to quickly read 
 the subject header.  But if you're someone who posts a lot of files 
 for other people, it's likely that people will go through the 
 process of reading your post and will probably try to help you. 
  
 [2.4]I want to make sure that people see my requests so I'm going to 
 post them five times each.  People will notice me then, right? 

 People will notice you, but not in a good light.  Posting the same 
 message multiple times could be called spamming, and it annoys 
 people.  See the note in [2.2] about asking people for something 
 while simultaneously annoying them.  The combination is not 
 advantageous to you.
  
 [2.5]I posted my requests and nobody filled them.  Why?  And what 
 can I do about it? 

 It's possible that nobody has the songs you're requesting.  It's 
 also possible that the songs you requested was JUST posted, and 
 people don't want to repost it right away.
 
 What can you do about it?  Wait a week and post your requests again. 
  It takes time for people to rip/encode and upload songs; give them 
 a chance to get to you.  There are a lot of people requesting songs 
 all the time.  Don't forget, beggars can't be choosers.
 
 You can also use an MP3 search engine.  If your request is a popular 
 song, it's pretty likely that somebody has already made an MP3 out 
 of it, and it may be readily available via the World Wide Web.  See 
 Sections [2.0] and [7] in this FAQ
  
 [2.6]I know how to make my requests now, but I can't find 
 alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.requests.  How am I supposed to post to the 
 "requests" group if it doesn't exist? 

 It does exist, but maybe your news server doesn't carry it.  First 
 thing to do is to confirm that you can't access it through your ISP. 

  
 [2.7]How can I confirm that my news server carries the "requests" 
 group? 

 The first thing to do is make sure you have an updated list of all 
 the newsgroups that your server provides.  If you're using Agent, 
 this is accomplished by going to Online|Refresh Groups List -or- 
 Online|Get New Groups
 
 After you have successfully retrieved all of the groups that your 
 server carries, do a search for "alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.requests" 
 (not including the quotes).  If you find it, then subscribe to it, 
 pull headers, and you're good to go.
  
 [2.8]The requests group isn't on my news server!  I TOLD you that it 
 doesn't exist!  Now what do I do? 

 Okay, maybe it doesn't exist on your news server.  Have you tried 
 getting your ISP/news server to carry it?  Send a polite e-mail to 
 them explaining that in your effort to respect Usenet etiquette, you 
 feel that the requests group (alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.requests) 
 should be carried by them.  It was properly proposed in alt.config 
 without a single dissenting comment.  They already carry the mp3 
 binary group, and the addition of a non-binary/request group will 
 not substantially affect their news server's performance.
 
 Another option WAS www.deja.com. Google (who bought them) promises 
 web access to Usenet, (including alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.requests?)  
 Unfortunately, although you can post a request there, it will be 
 hard to see someone post a heads up or a comment about a request 
 because Google will hide all posts with x-no-archive=yes in the 
 header (a common practice in absm.*).  Be sure to state where you 
 would like responders to post, and then you will have to look there 
 to see if anyone did.
  
 [2.9]How do I access the requests group with Deja or RemarQ? 

 Alas, RemarQ and Deja are no more. They were purchased by Supernews 
 and Google, and there are no remarQ archives. Google has made Deja 
 archives available, but there is still no free access to Usenet from 
 Google as there was from Deja.com.
  
 [2.10]I'm trying to remain anonymous, but when I signed up, my web 
 service needed to know my e-mail address.  If I post a request that 
 way, won't people be able to find my real e-mail address? 

 This FAQ doesn't cover web-based posting services, but you can 
 always go to one of the other free email services and get a new 
 e-mail address.  Try  www.hotmail.com, www.operamail.com, or  
 www.yahoo.com.
  
 [2.11]If I get a new e-mail address, people won't recognize my 
 name/nym and I won't get the files I request.  Isn't there ANY other 
 way to get the requests group? 

 Yes, you should try to get your ISP/news server to carry the group.  

 Send a polite e-mail to them explaining that in your effort to 
 respect Usenet etiquette, you feel that the requests group, 
 alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.requests, should be carried by them.  It was 
 properly proposed in alt.config without a single dissenting comment. 
  They already carry the binary group, and the addition of a 
 non-binary/request group will not substantially affect their news 
 server's performance.
  
 [2.12]I made my request and I think it got posted, but with all the 
 spam in the binary group I can't find a thing.  I thought I heard 
 about some filter that people are using.  What is it? 

 Some newsreader software will allow you to use filters which can 
 make the newsgroup more readable.  A filter commonly being used in 
 these groups filters out any post with fewer than 100 lines IF it 
 does not contain any of the following (0/#), nfo, txt, image, scan, 
 or "0 of".  Just remember that filters are not infallible, and if 
 you use them there is the possibility that you'll miss something 
 that you wanted to see.
  
 [2.13]Yadda-yadda-yadda… Just give me the spam filter for Agent! 

 The Agent filter is found at 
 http://www.mp3-faq.org/tips/agenttips.html#spam. 

 A spam filter for Outlook Express is available on the Outlook 
 Express Sub-FAQ: http://www.mp3-faq.org/tips/oe5subfaq.html.
  
 [2.14]Where is this "d" group or "discussion group" that everybody 
 talks about?  I can't find it on my news server. 

 The discussion group is alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.d.  If you can't 
 find it, you should refer back to Sections [2.6], [2.7], and [2.9].  
 The topics and suggestions covered in those sections also apply to 
 the discussion group.  If, for some reason, your ISP or news server 
 carries some of the a.b.s.m.* groups but NOT the discussion group, 
 you should contact them and request that they carry it.
  
 [2.15]I thought that all requests were supposed to go into the 
 requests group.  If that's true, why are there requests in the 
 discussion group? 

 There are still some people who don't receive the a.b.s.m.requests 
 group, or who are unaware of its existence.  Therefore they continue 
 to post their requests into the discussion group.  If you use Agent, 
 you can filter out everything with the word "req" in it 
 (http://www.mp3-faq.org/tips/agenttips.html#req and the 
 discussion group becomes much easier to read.  Do not use this 
 filter in the binary groups.  You won't see responses to requests.
 
 A number of people are refusing to fill requests that are posted in 
 the discussion group in an attempt to encourage the use of the 
 proper group, a.b.s.m.requests.  Also, if you *are* filling a 
 request that appears in the discussion group, you can suggest to the 
 requestor that his/her request posts would be better served if they 
 appeared in the correct group.
  
 [2.16]I want help identifying a song. Can I post a snippet to the 
 discussion group or .requests? 

 Please don't. Post a sample to alt.binaries.test or 
 alt.binaries.misc. Then come to the discussion group and ask people 
 to go listen to it and help you identify it.  Make sure you identify 
 your sample post by subject title or Message ID so folks can find 
 it.  When you get the name of the song, ask for it in the .requests 
 group as usual.  Following these steps will keep binaries out of the 
 text-only discussion and .requests groups.

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                            - [3] MAKING MP3s -

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 [3.0]I want to give something back to this group. How do I make an 
 MP3? 

 Making MP3s from scratch involves a couple of steps.  The first is 
 acquiring the sound file and the second is encoding the file into 
 MP3 format.
  
 [3.1]How do I get the music from my CD-ROM onto my computer? 

 The preferred method of making MP3s is to do it from a digital 
 source (CD) and capture it digitally (Digital Audio Extraction: 
 DAE).  This process is also known as "ripping".

 The first thing is to determine if your CD-ROM supports DAE.
 
   NOTE: Unless you specifically state otherwise, those who download 
   your MP3 will automatically assume that it was digitally extracted 
   from a CD.  If your music source is a tape or vinyl record or 
   something OTHER than a CD -OR- your capture process includes the 
   use of a sound card or other non-digital methods, you really 
   should inform people in your Subject line or in the zero-file of 
   your binary post.  If you do not do this, people will definitely 
   let you know that you should have.

 [3.2]How do I determine if my CD-ROM supports digital audio 
 extraction (DAE)? 

 Some software packages will test your system for you.  If you have 
 Easy CD Creator, go to Tools|System Tests|Audio Extraction and run 
 the test.
 
 You can also check the list at: http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq05.html.
  
 [3.3]I know my CD-ROM does DAE, but I'm having strange problems and 
 I can't get it to work right. What do I do? 

 You may be having compatibility problems with a specific piece of 
 software. 
 
 Check: http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq05.html to see if there are any 
 software issues with your particular CD-ROM drive. 
  
 [3.4]My CD-ROM supports DAE; what do I use to rip audio tracks? 

 There are many different software choices, and each has its pros and 
 cons.  Some will encode as you rip the audio, some work better with 
 SCSI drives, etc.  Rippers of choice are EAC, AudioGrabber and 
 CDex; there are many others.
 
 For more information go to: http://software.mp3.com/software/ and 
 click the links at the left for your operating system or platform.  
 They also highlight only a few, so click the "complete list of..." 
 for a more detailed listing
  
 [3.5]Can I encode an MP3 straight off of the CD? 

 Yes, if you have MP3 Compressor or MP3 Producer installed, you can 
 copy a track straight to into an MP3 with windac32.  Go to the menu 
 'DAC', then to 'select wave format' and choose Fraunhofer IIS MPEG 
 Layer-3 Codec (professional).
 
 The 'MPEG Encoder' (a.k.a. SoloH encoder) also allows MP3 encoding 
 straight from the CD if you have a SCSI CD-ROM.
 
 AudioGrabber works with either SCSI or IDE CD-ROMs and can use its 
 internal codec or BladeEnc's dll to create MP3s, as well as send 

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